January 26, 2004

• Opened a can of worms, eh?
  Responses to some of the comments (in italics), and hoping for some continued discussion.

  #1.
  I see why you may think this is so stupid, and when legal action is taken, it definitely is. 
  However.
  The honor roll sucks for smart people, too.  It makes the school out to be like a communist labor camp. These awards are like incentive for people to work, and rather than focusing on the student, they end up treating human beings like mindless cattle; focusing on grades rather than how well they actually understand information.  Instead of “hey, good job,” I get “hey, let me see your homework so I can copy it.  You don’t want to give it to me?  You fucking cunt I hate you.”  So in a case like this, I’d much rather not have an honor roll.  My grades are my business.
  Posted 1/25/2004 at 8:34 PM by Beelzebub

  i disagree. the reason students are treated like cattle and with a communistic work camp attitude is because of the student to teacher ration(sic)(EDIT – i originally meant “ratio”). smaller class size would lead to a more human approach to teaching and the relationship in general. as it is, most teachers are underpaid and over worked; it’s no puzzle why most of them don’t give a shit.
  Posted 1/25/2004 at 9:23 PM by saturnalia

  When it comes to grades, the only objective is seeing a 100 on the paper.  Students will do anything to get that, whether it be by studying or by cheating.  And the only reason why is to please mommy and daddy, to make the transcript look nice, or both.  How well the student understands the lesson is not even taken into consideration.  I have consistently placed in the top 5 throughout my four years… either because I’m smart or most likely because I’m surrouned by jackasses.  I am perhaps the laziest person on the planet yet I manage to maintain an A average.  Some kids just learn better than others, it’s that simple.  If I get a C on a test it’s not normal.  People assume that something’s wrong at home, I’m just not myself, etc.  Since everyone knows my business, it’s expected of me to do well.  My point is that the concept of the honor roll is entirely fucked up and should be eliminated not because of the stupid kids who suck and do nothing but bitch about it, but for the well-being of those who do well, and who want to succeed, without having the entire school population knowing their personal information.
  Posted 1/26/2004 at 7:48 AM by Beelzebub

  grades themselves are a measure of the students work throughout the year. final testing is a measure of how well the student understand the concepts taught to them. in theory, that is. it sounds like you have more of a problem with students being taught to regurgitate facts, and being taught WHAT to think rather than HOW to think (something i agree with) and your own privacy concerns.

  #2
  I don’t really see the correlation to the KV story. They illustrate two different points. KV was painting a portrait of an extreme communist society. Everyone is exactly equal, and trying to achieve personal success is sin.
  Eliminating the honor roll is not about keeping all students equal, rather an attempt at placating parents and trying to keep their childrens feelings from being hurt, resulting in frivolous lawsuits.
  This is more a study in how our lawsuit-happy, greed-driven society can manipulate our schools and our students right to recognition.
  Posted 1/26/2004 at 8:45 AM by suede1976

  You drew the correlation yourself; “Everyone is exactly equal, and trying to achieve personal success is a sin.” That quote is exactly the correlation. In the story, having any kind of advantage, whether inborn or learned is against the law. In the news report, they want to do away with the honor roll because it makes the kids who haven’t made the roll feel bad. What kind of retarded (and I mean retarded in the truest dictionary definition) logic is that? “You shouldn’t be acknowledged for your success because it makes others feel bad”, is what they’re (the news story) essentially saying, which is what the essence of the story is.

  #3
  and the honor roll…    some kids have to work hard to get on the honor roll and to some kids it just comes natuarally. ive made the honor roll once or twice when i actually worked but usually im too lazy and i dont give a damn…  but theres no reason for it, it just makes all the other kids who dont make it look incredibly stupid
  Posted 1/26/2004 at 2:33 PM by dreamingxsilently

  i disagree. the kids who look incredibly stupid look so because they make themselves look that way. you said it yourself; you’ve made the honor roll when you tried but you’re too lazy to try, so you don’t make it on the roll. now, i’m not saying you’re stupid, i’m saying the reason you don’t make it on is because you’re lazy (again, you said it yourself).
  Posted 1/26/2004 at 3:04 PM by saturnalia

  ADDENDUM:
  like i said in the previous post, most kids just need to get off their lazy ass and do some homework. and, no, it doesn’t make them look incredibly stupid in the least. like smarticus said, it’s a congratulatory pat on the back for hard work done and achievements earned.

  #4
  your fuckin sit sux! so does mine but damn!!! your fugly too.
  Posted 1/26/2004 at 5:11 PM by The_Choosen_Gothic_1

  hey, thanks for your intelligent, informed opinion. my response to you is start using dictionary.com (it’s free!), spell check (it’s also free!) and psychiatric help (sadly, this isn’t free).

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