September 12, 2002

  • no, don't call me bruce lee or make those stupid waaa! wooo! noises.

    in the now famous words of neo (keanu reeves in the matrix):
    "i know kung fu".
    which, in reality, i do. i've been training since december 1998.
    as sort of an introduction into what will probably be a series of entries, i'll explain what kung fu is and what kung fu isn't.

    kung fu is not kung fu.
    the literal translation of "kung fu" is "skill acquired through time and effort". you can have kung fu in anything - i would say that some xangaist's have kung fu writing. a master chef has culinary skills that are kung fu. it can be anything, as long as it's a skill attained through practice over time and effort put into it. what we know as kung fu is really kuo shu (national art), wu shu (spear art -
    spear being representative of war/soldier/martial) or chuan fa (fighting principle).

    when wushu isn't kung fu.
    in china during the cultural revolution, maoist communism dictated that anything pertaining to culture or cultural history was wrong, and attempted to eradicate it. many artifacts (buddhist sutras, statues, even temples) were destroyed in the name of communism. practicing martial arts was outlawed unless you were in the military. after the reign of chairman mao, government sanctioned martial arts found their way back into the mainstream culture, modified and watered down. they became an art based on performance and agility, not unlike gymnastics. this art became associated with the moniker of "wushu" under government influence. although they look similar and both require great skill and effort, kung fu and (modern) wushu have little left in common.

    who would win in a fight, jackie chan or bruce lee?
    the advent of modern wushu brings me to another aspect of the modernization of martial arts - hollywood kung fu. like modern wushu, this is based on classical or traditional kung fu, but is not the real thing. what you see in movies has more in common with modern wushu. factually, most kung fu movie stars are gold medal wushu performers (jet li), peking opera performers or are taught enough wushu to do the movie. the best displays of traditional kung fu i've seen in movies weren't in the matrix or jackie chan movies - they were in the movies the gladiator and last of the mohecians.
    the techniques are often taken out of context and used for something flashy or nicer looking, rather than the true applications. and lastly, traditional kung fu doesn't teach you to fly or run up bamboo trees, ala crouching tiger, hidden dragon.

Comments (22)

  • I had the tiniest taste of karate last year and it left me with great appreciation for people who study any of the martial arts.

  • Forgive my twisted hmor here, but, I think Jackie Chan would most certainly win in a fight against Bruce Lee. Why, You ask? Well for one thing---Bruce Lee is dead!!! (Har har) Seriously, probably Bruce, if the same age and esp. both alive. Athough Jackie may give him a run for his money.

    My 10 and a half year old nephew has a black belt in karate. Seriously been training since he was 5, I think.

    MyKi...

  • i'm going to marry keanu reeves...haha

    wow that's really interesting...about the whole kung fu thing...i've got some major gardening kung fu 

  • oh yeah...the whole brown and rough thing...that is sooo funny...haha i love bad humor, and you!

  • If I were a Kung Fu practitioner (several guys in my office are), I think I'd specialize in an animal style.

    Which one, you say?

    Easy. Fucking Monkey Style.

    And dude....Bruce...hands down. Jackie could best him in stunts, but I'm afraid the Chanster would get his narrow ass handed to him.

  • Great post.  I feel just a little more enlightened about something I know nada about.

    --L

  • hrm.  i once dated a guy who was a 2nd degree black belt in taekwondo.  he was seriously way obsessed with that.  talked about nothing but that for hours.  he could yack forever about that subject.  well i got bored.  oh yeah what i wanna see is a fight between bruce lee and jet li.  that would be something. 

    i guess jet li and jackie chan would do, but i have my money on jet li.  once upon a time in china series are awesome....

  • wow, that's quite interesting..i've studied wushu last year a lil while..and didn't get much out of it since i wasn't a very good student..and now i'm wondering if what i learned was 'wushu'..or..just plain wushu....

  • interesting...I wanted to learn kung fu just so I could run up a bamboo tree.

  • Waaah...Wooooh!!!

    *waves and runs away laughing*

  • Hm. That was pretty astute and well written. Can i just say I hated c.t.h.d. partly coz of the damn japanese subtitle shit, but mostly coz of the whole flying around, walking in trees thing.... that was just too far out there. and i didnt like the fact the guy died in the end either. lol. The matrix irked me for the same reasons. Its all too glamorous to be real kung fu. The best fight I think Ive ever seen was in enter the dragon. For some reason, I liked the moves in that one the best.

    As far as who'd win that fight, Id put my money on bruce lee anyday. Has jackie chan developed and written his own cutting edge method of kung fu? I think not. At least, not to my knowledge.

  • I wanna know kung fu.....

  • you know, that was really informative

    and great suggestion, the shining would work well for tonight

  • I went to tae kwon do for about 6 months when I was in 3rd grade, then quit when I realized that I wasn't going to be able to shoot fireballs.  Lets hear it for the loss of enchantment of childhood

  • Yay. Another nice informative and amusing post by the great...you.  Wah.

    I always wanted to learn some form of martial arts...but now that I know it won't teach me to fly or anything neat like that...hm. Nah, I still want to learn. Silly me.

  • Wow, you learn something new every single day :) And you mean that the flying stuff in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon wasn't real? I am so disillusioned ;)

  • Because, you know...we all believe everything is as Hollywood portrays it...

    Everybody was kuuung fuuuu fiiiighting...

    Great post, though. Once again, your knowledge astounds me...

    Ok, Im full of shit. But it WAS a good post.

  • Well if I can't run up a bamboo tree then I don't want to learn.

  • I can't run up a bamboo tree but my brother-in-law's feet are registered in 11 states as a leathal weapons

  • Wow thanks for the info!
    Now my brain is one step closer to crashing.
    And yeah, the sillouette is a cat. Sorry it's hard to see but the original version was even darker till I noticed how badly the words stuck out.

  • Well, that answers THAT question. If I can't run up trees, then what's in it for me!?!?!?!?!?!

  • You tell em brother!Way to educate the people.

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